Post by h***@aol.comPost by Jim UKPost by h***@aol.comPost by a***@gmail.comPost by h***@aol.comPost by DPost by l***@gmail.comLike I said, when you all stop the Trump-bashing, then I will take your request to remove political posts seriously. We Conservatives are no longer sitting back, silently allowing you Liberals to have the only voice. Doesn't feel good, does it?
Chris
I've already said my piece, but I do have a question.
SINCE WHEN have ReTrumplicans kept their mouths shut about how WONDERFUL things supposedly are since the incompetent tool who lost the popular vote managed to get into the White House?
And if you think I'm treating the poor, spoiled, whiny little toddler-in-chief any worse than Obama was treated, build yourself a bridge.
To your first point: Republicans have kept their mouths shut for years UNTIL President Trump was in office. I'm speaking of the silent majority- the voting public. Not the weak RINO's in Congress. We have plenty of useless Republicans in Congress. No spine at all. They would save their precious pocketbooks rather than their own Country!
And furthermore, the popular vote has NOTHING to do with getting elected. That's not how our system works. If we went by popular vote ONLY, then maybe 4 or 5 States would elect the President every time. How would the voices of the other 45/46 States be heard? Perhaps you should learn about the reason for the Electoral College. If the Electoral College system were ever abolished, you can bet your bottom dollar that Republican voters would FLOOD those 4/5 States to be heard. However, it is a pipedream to assume that that would ever happen. There is a huge process to change the Constitution! It's not going to be done by one party having power in all 3 branches of Government. Not unless they declare themselves Totalitarians or Dictators.
Now to your second point: President Obama had the entire media on his side! That includes TV AND printed media. Every single news outlet EXCEPT Fox News was fawning over him for the entire time he was in office. He was the next coming of Christ. You call that treated poorly? If you listen to, or read, any one of those news outlets, you got only one-sided coverage of his administration. He could do no wrong.
Now, Conservatives can't even rely on Fox News for support of the President. It has been taken over by the son of the former CEO, who slants left. They now have as many leftists on their channel as supporters on the right. You should watch it now and again. You'd be SO "proud"!
The left has taken over the education system - from Day Care all the way up to the major Universities. Our children have been indoctrinated into the propaganda the left spews for at least two generations already. Why do you think there is so much hatred on our streets now? These kids, who haven't a clue, are out there marching for issues about which they haven't even been taught correctly. You can pull up YouTube or Facebook Watch on any day of the week and see students on campuses who don't even know the most basic information about America's history. I heard some young person interviewed the other day who was asked who George Washington was. The totally uninformed, mal-educated person responded that George Washington was the "second President, after Lincoln". Another was asked when the Declaration of Independence was signed. His response? 1984! Yet another: "Who did we declare our independence FROM?" Answer: "Virginia!" Only ONE out of 5 people who were asked, could even sing the correct words to our National Anthem! How do they hate a country when they don't even know the most basic truths and history surrounding it?
I shake my head and pray that America can survive - AS FOUNDED - so that my >son and his family can live in the same AMAZING and EXCEPTIONAL country I grew >up in. I'm hard-pressed to find any remnants left of it on the news today. It >makes me so sad and afraid for our future.
Chris
I find the most frightening aspect of this entire tirade is that she was allowed to produce offspring.....
Annie
Allowed? Now we need permission to have children? Sounds like you are already living in the Communist world, Annie. Hope you enjoy losing all your freedoms. I'll fight for mine, thank you.
Chris
Chris, do you own a gun and live in a trailer park?
No, I do not...on both counts. I live in my own (brick) home, all paid for, in Upstate NY (North of Albany) and do not own a gun. I also have all of my teeth and dress very nicely. I speak correct English and have a degree from a local college. I work to support myself and do NOT need to, nor WANT to rely on the government. And there are millions more just like me in this Conservative party. Kind of blows the stereotype all to hell, doesn't it?
Chris
Chris,
Allow me to disabuse you of this notion: You do not 'blow the stereotype all to hell'.
Let me recap some of your greatest hits right from this thread.....
1. "CNN celebrating America" is NOT an oxymoron. I'm not talking politics I'm talking semantics.
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2. "Republicans have kept their mouths shut for years UNTIL President Trump was in office..."
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Since 1960 there have been 7 Republican Presidents: Eisenhower, Nixon, Ford, Reagan, G.H.W.Bush, G.W.Bush, trump.
During that same time period there have been only 5 Democratic Presidents: Kennedy, Johnson, Carter, Clinton, Obama.
So tell us again how the Republicans have 'stayed silent for years.'
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3. "President Obama had the entire media on his side! That includes TV AND printed media. Every single news outlet EXCEPT Fox News was fawning over him for the entire time he was in office. He was the next coming of Christ. You call that treated poorly? If you listen to, or read, any one of those news outlets, you got only one-sided coverage of his administration. He could do no wrong."
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Well, Mrs. Marshall McLuhan, you might need to re-examine your theories on media......
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4. "The left has taken over the education system - from Day Care all the way up to the major Universities. Our children have been indoctrinated into the propaganda the left spews for at least two generations already"
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Imma need you to cite sources on this. Where are you getting your information from? ( Crazy MAGA indoctrination theory doesn't count. )
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5. " Why do you think there is so much hatred on our streets now? These kids, who haven't a clue, are out there marching for issues about which they haven't even been taught correctly."
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What, exactly, are these ^issues^ you are talking about? Black Lives Matter? Because that's what the protests have been about. What do we need to "correctly teach" about the BLM movement? Please enlighten us on the history of institutionalized racism in America and how it has been "mistaught" for "the last two generations"
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6. " I heard some young person interviewed the other day who was asked who George Washington was. The totally uninformed, mal-educated person responded that George Washington was the "second President, after Lincoln". Another was asked when the Declaration of Independence was signed. His response? 1984! Yet another: "Who did we declare our independence FROM?" Answer: "Virginia!" Only ONE out of 5 people who were asked, could even sing the correct words to our National Anthem! How do they hate a country when they don't even know the most basic truths and history surrounding it? "
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And THIS is EXACTLY how trump got elected. His base largely consists of uneducated people.....people who don't read, who don't watch anything other than FOX news (if that), who have opinions informed only by MAGA propaganda
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7. "I shake my head and pray that America can survive - AS FOUNDED - so that my son and his family can live in the same AMAZING and EXCEPTIONAL country I grew up in."
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How old are you? Were you alive in the 50s and 60s? If not, surely you are aware of those times.....
the outright discrimination of people of color, particularly in the south; the Kennedy's - John, then Robert, assassinated. Martin Luther King Jr assassinated. The Viet Nam war. 1970s: The shameful treatment of the returning Viet Nam vets. Nixon casting a dark shadow on the presidency with Watergate. Continued discrimination against people of color. Discrimination against LGBT. 1980's: The nuclear arms race. AIDS and all the lives lost. The stock market crash of 1987. Continued discrimination against people of color and the LGBT community. The rise of homelessness particularly amongst Viet Nam vets. The rise of drug abuse and opioid addiction.
I don't know where YOU grew up, Chris, and full disclosure: I was lucky to grow up in a fairly well-to-do situation so much of my childhood ^was^ amazing, but I was also very aware of current events and social justice issues. It was not AMAZING for everyone growing up in America, that I knew.
Never has America been ^amazing ^ for everyone. And part of being an American is continually working to lift everyone up. Everyone.
That's what I was taught growing up (by my REPUBLICAN parents, I'll have you know) and it has always informed my choices and shaped my political views.
But working for equality and social justice no longer seems important to the Republican party, or for what passes for the Republican party these days.
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8. "Of course, many people are aware that George Soros (a self-proclaimed Russian Communist) is pulling all the strings in the Democrat Party. He needs an incompetent "fool" to be able to control their every move. I don't believe Joe Biden is a "fool", but someone is allowing him to fill that role. So, in summary, it's going to take someone who is of sound mind to beat Donald J. Trump. Biden is not. "
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MAGA conspiracy theories do not make for the strongest argument.....just something to think about. And when you bring in George Soros you ^really^ fit the stereotype. Like a glove, as they say.
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9. "....I've heard from plenty of folks in the UK who WISH they had a President like Trump."
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Newsflash: The UK does not have a President; they have a Monarchy. Surprised you didn't know this as it has been this way since the 9th century. But, you know, reading takes so much TIME...why not just let trumpology tell you what to think, right?
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10. "Unless, of course, you are a Globalist who supports One World Order. Then I would understand your position."
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Would you though? Would you really?
Quick, Chris, define "Globalism"....I'll wait.
And you bring it on home with:
"Sounds like you are already living in the Communist world, Annie."
For extra bonus points, define "Communism".....Stalin, Lenin, Karl Marx.... ringing any bells there? (hint: NOT the names of Groucho's brothers)
In summary: your feeble attempts to defend your position along with your crazy MAGA propaganda makes you the perfect stereotypical trumpie.
What I wrote before still stands. You, and every other trump supporter - and yes I know full well who they are here - disgust me.
Whether trump wins or loses next election we will never fully recover, as a nation, from the light being shown on all of you racist, self-centered, uneducated, morally bankrupt "fellow Americans". I am ashamed of you all.
I am ashamed that our country gave rise to you. I am ashamed that trump gave you a platform. I am ashamed that historians for years to come will struggle to characterize these dark days of our democracy and I pray that they realize some of us tried to stand tall. I am angry that my Grandfather, Dad, and now my Nephew - all proud Navy men - fought/fight to defend your rights because you all have NO FUCKING CLUE what it means to be a true American.
Well, glad I got that off my chest. I feel so much better having blown this off.
Thank you all for attending my TED Talk,
Annie