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O/T Musicals on Donna Summer, Michael Jackson seem to suggest musicals after deaths of celebrities
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marvin
2019-01-25 15:16:57 UTC
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I read recently that a musical on the life of Michael Jackson is being planned soon and there is also a musical on Donna Summer that is currently being staged.
I would guess that musicals based on the lives of famous singers while they are alive are difficult to do (with notable exceptions, such as the musicals on Carole King and Frankie Valli), especially if the star had such a complicated life as did Michael Jackson, as the stars probably would never consent to producers staging their work in musicals.
I read that Barry has mentioned that he would not be interested in a musical based on his life, but I think it is possible, if not probable, that a musical based on Barry's life, as well as the lives of Neil Diamond, Barbra Streisand, Madonna will be staged after they are gone. What are your thoughts? Thanks, Marvin
D
2019-01-25 20:38:58 UTC
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Post by marvin
I read recently that a musical on the life of Michael Jackson is being planned soon and there is also a musical on Donna Summer that is currently being staged.
I would guess that musicals based on the lives of famous singers while they are alive are difficult to do (with notable exceptions, such as the musicals on Carole King and Frankie Valli), especially if the star had such a complicated life as did Michael Jackson, as the stars probably would never consent to producers staging their work in musicals.
I read that Barry has mentioned that he would not be interested in a musical based on his life, but I think it is possible, if not probable, that a musical based on Barry's life, as well as the lives of Neil Diamond, Barbra Streisand, Madonna will be staged after they are gone. What are your thoughts? Thanks, Marvin
Interesting thought, Marvin.
I would guess probably not when it comes to Streisand. Mainly for the length of her career... it's been over 56 years since her first album was released. And she's ALWAYS had full creative control from the beginning. I'd bet that her estate planning has already been done in that regard.
As for Barry... it depends. Might have to wait until Garry's passed, too. There would probably be some questions as to what can/can't be included.
I'm suddenly picturing this musical coming out while Garry's still alive... him deciding he doesn't like it... and trying to put up huge signs reading "GO AWAY." :-)
Scooter
2019-01-25 20:47:59 UTC
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I'm suddenly picturing
this musical coming out while Garry's still alive... him
deciding he doesn't like it... and trying to put up huge
signs reading "GO AWAY." :-)
Ha! Good one, Dave. :-D

He could sell "GA!" t-shirts.

Scooter
a***@gmail.com
2019-01-25 21:18:28 UTC
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Post by D
I'm suddenly picturing
this musical coming out while Garry's still alive... him
deciding he doesn't like it... and trying to put up huge
signs reading "GO AWAY." :-)
Ha! Good one, Dave. :-D
He could sell "GA!" t-shirts.
Scooter
Way to be respectful of Mr M and Mr Kief's marriage.

Scooter, Dave.....WTF is wrong with you?


Annie
marvin
2019-01-25 21:58:19 UTC
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Hi Annie,
We all like Barry and Garry and nobody is having a death wish on them.
However, because all celebrities have something in their lives that they do not want revealed to the public, there is much intrigue about watching a musical based on the life of the performer that is told without the illusion that was necessary to keep their careers going.
I think if the projected musical about the life of Michael Jackson will include the narrative about his abuse by his father, his identification with Netherland and children, it will be a powerful story to go with his famous songs.
Given that Barry is not interested in a musical about his life now, I wanted to speculate if any of us would like to see a musical with his classic songs made that tell the story of his career and backstories on his personal life, including his relationship with Garry and tensions with Clive Davis.
For me, I would like to see a musical on Barry with his hit songs performed with the story of his life for everyone to see on stage and continue his legacy for generations to come. Thanks, Marvin
a***@gmail.com
2019-01-25 22:58:57 UTC
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Hi Annie,
We all like Barry and Garry and nobody is having a death wish on them.
However, because all celebrities have something in their lives that they do not want revealed to the public, there is much intrigue about watching a musical based on the life of the performer that is told without the illusion that was necessary to keep their careers going.
I think if the projected musical about the life of Michael Jackson will include the narrative about his abuse by his father, his identification with Netherland and children, it will be a powerful story to go with his famous songs.
Given that Barry is not interested in a musical about his life now, I wanted to speculate if any of us would like to see a musical with his classic songs made that tell the story of his career and backstories on his personal life, including his relationship with Garry and tensions with Clive Davis.
For me, I would like to see a musical on Barry with his hit songs performed with the story of his life for everyone to see on stage and continue his legacy for generations to come. Thanks, Marvin
Hi Marvin,

I wasn't thinking of you when I posted. I found Dave and Scooter's comments to be disrespectful.

Best,
Annie
Scooter
2019-01-25 22:01:32 UTC
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On Friday, January 25, 2019 at 3:48:04 PM UTC-5, Scooter
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Post by D
I'm suddenly picturing
this musical coming out while Garry's still alive... him
deciding he doesn't like it... and trying to put up huge
signs reading "GO AWAY." :-)
Ha! Good one, Dave. :-D
He could sell "GA!" t-shirts.
Scooter
Way to be respectful of Mr M and Mr Kief's marriage.
Scooter, Dave.....WTF is wrong with you?
Stop clutching your pearls. This has nothing to do with their
marriage. It has to do with the infamous "Go away" letter
from years ago.

You simply don't know Manilow history.

Scooter
Junie
2019-01-25 22:21:00 UTC
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Scooter - Touché ;^)
a***@gmail.com
2019-01-25 23:02:42 UTC
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On Friday, January 25, 2019 at 3:48:04 PM UTC-5, Scooter
Post by Scooter
Post by D
I'm suddenly picturing
this musical coming out while Garry's still alive... him
deciding he doesn't like it... and trying to put up huge
signs reading "GO AWAY." :-)
Ha! Good one, Dave. :-D
He could sell "GA!" t-shirts.
Scooter
Way to be respectful of Mr M and Mr Kief's marriage.
Scooter, Dave.....WTF is wrong with you?
Stop clutching your pearls. This has nothing to do with their
marriage. It has to do with the infamous "Go away" letter
from years ago.
You simply don't know Manilow history.
Scooter
Hi Scooter,

Maybe I don't know Manilow history, but I do know bad taste.

You don't joke around about someone being a widower. It's not funny or amusing. It's rude and disrespectful, IMO.

Best,
Annie
D
2019-01-26 20:35:24 UTC
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Post by Scooter
On Friday, January 25, 2019 at 3:48:04 PM UTC-5, Scooter
Post by Scooter
Post by D
I'm suddenly picturing
this musical coming out while Garry's still alive... him
deciding he doesn't like it... and trying to put up huge
signs reading "GO AWAY." :-)
Ha! Good one, Dave. :-D
He could sell "GA!" t-shirts.
Scooter
Way to be respectful of Mr M and Mr Kief's marriage.
Scooter, Dave.....WTF is wrong with you?
Stop clutching your pearls. This has nothing to do with their
marriage. It has to do with the infamous "Go away" letter
from years ago.
You simply don't know Manilow history.
Scooter
Hi Scooter,
Maybe I don't know Manilow history, but I do know bad taste.
You don't joke around about someone being a widower. It's not funny or amusing. It's rude and disrespectful, IMO.
Best,
Annie
I echo what Scooter said. The "go away" reference was in regards to past Manilow history. (Now had I suggested he would say "sashay away," that would be different. But I didn't, and wouldn't.) The comment had nothing to do with the idea of Garry being a widower.
We don't all have a seemingly unhealthy obsession with Garry... good grief.
Scooter
2019-01-26 21:15:10 UTC
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Post by D
The comment had nothing to do with
the idea of Garry being a widower. We don't all have a
seemingly unhealthy obsession with Garry... good grief.
I know. Kinda creepy, isn't it? 8-/

Scooter
b***@gmail.com
2019-01-26 21:34:46 UTC
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Post by D
I'm suddenly picturing
this musical coming out while Garry's still alive... him
deciding he doesn't like it... and trying to put up huge
signs reading "GO AWAY." :-)
Ha! Good one, Dave. :-D
He could sell "GA!" t-shirts.
You know what? IF the BMIFC was to put out a shirt like that for sale, I'd get one! Then I would wear it in public and when someone asked me what it meant, I'd tell them and watch their expression on their face. I bet some would ask, "How do I get one of those?" lol Go Away has been one of Garry's favorite comments for years. He doesn't take any crap off anyone.

Annie just jumped the gun, not knowing what it really meant and because of that, took it the wrong way. JW
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Scooter
D
2019-01-28 02:02:23 UTC
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Ha! Good one, Dave. :-D
He could sell "GA!" t-shirts.
You know what? IF the BMIFC was to put out a shirt like that for sale, I'd get one! Then I would wear it in public and when someone asked me what it meant, I'd tell them and watch their expression on their face. I bet some would ask, "How do I get one of those?" lol Go Away has been one of Garry's favorite comments for years. He doesn't take any crap off anyone.
Love it! Can you imagine a group of us showing up at Barry concerts wearing "GA" shirts? Although if it only said "GA" (instead of spelling out the entire phrase) people might think we're from Georgia... LOL
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Annie just jumped the gun, not knowing what it really meant and because of that, took it the wrong way. JW
...and, in her not knowing, decided it was fair game to try to tear me a new one. And she's not going to. :-)
b***@gmail.com
2019-01-28 02:28:11 UTC
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Ha! Good one, Dave. :-D
He could sell "GA!" t-shirts.
You know what? IF the BMIFC was to put out a shirt like that for sale, I'd get one! Then I would wear it in public and when someone asked me what it meant, I'd tell them and watch their expression on their face. I bet some would ask, "How do I get one of those?" lol Go Away has been one of Garry's favorite comments for years. He doesn't take any crap off anyone.
Love it! Can you imagine a group of us showing up at Barry concerts wearing "GA" shirts? Although if it only said "GA" (instead of spelling out the entire phrase) people might think we're from Georgia... LOL
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Annie just jumped the gun, not knowing what it really meant and because of that, took it the wrong way. JW
...and, in her not knowing, decided it was fair game to try to tear me a new one. And she's not going to. :-)
LOL Dave! Maybe it would also need a GCK under it to differentiate it from Georgia? That would really get people wondering what it meant.

I can picture it now....."GA!"
GCK
b***@gmail.com
2019-01-28 02:46:38 UTC
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Post by Scooter
Ha! Good one, Dave. :-D
He could sell "GA!" t-shirts.
You know what? IF the BMIFC was to put out a shirt like that for sale, I'd get one! Then I would wear it in public and when someone asked me what it meant, I'd tell them and watch their expression on their face. I bet some would ask, "How do I get one of those?" lol Go Away has been one of Garry's favorite comments for years. He doesn't take any crap off anyone.
Love it! Can you imagine a group of us showing up at Barry concerts wearing "GA" shirts? Although if it only said "GA" (instead of spelling out the entire phrase) people might think we're from Georgia... LOL
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Annie just jumped the gun, not knowing what it really meant and because of that, took it the wrong way. JW
...and, in her not knowing, decided it was fair game to try to tear me a new one. And she's not going to. :-)
Dave - a message to you about the tee shirt on the QUESTION thread. :-)
a***@gmail.com
2019-01-27 04:25:47 UTC
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Interesting thought, Marvin.
I would guess probably not when it comes to Streisand. Mainly for the length >of her career... it's been over 56 years since her first album was released. >And she's ALWAYS had full creative control from the beginning. I'd bet that >her estate planning has already been done in that regard.
Hi Dave,
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As for Barry... it depends. Might have to wait until Garry's passed, too. >There would probably be some questions as to what can/can't be included.
I'm suddenly picturing this musical coming out while Garry's still alive... >him deciding he doesn't like it... and trying to put up huge signs reading "GO >AWAY." :-)
I stand by my original post; it's tacky AF to make jokes about someone being a widower.

From another perspective, Mr Kief would have every right in the known universe to exert control over the estate of his spouse including any posthumous musical productions. I would expect him, out of respect for his spouse, to shut that shit down.

I just didn't find this joke funny. Sorry.

As for "sashay away", well, I've seen Mr Kief. Dude's never sashayed in his life. Not that I have any objections to the act of sashaying. My late brother could sashay with the best of them and I loved him dearly. But, Mr Kief? Butch AF.

Best,
Annie
D
2019-01-28 01:54:12 UTC
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Interesting thought, Marvin.
I would guess probably not when it comes to Streisand. Mainly for the length >of her career... it's been over 56 years since her first album was released. >And she's ALWAYS had full creative control from the beginning. I'd bet that >her estate planning has already been done in that regard.
Hi Dave,
Post by D
As for Barry... it depends. Might have to wait until Garry's passed, too. >There would probably be some questions as to what can/can't be included.
I'm suddenly picturing this musical coming out while Garry's still alive... >him deciding he doesn't like it... and trying to put up huge signs reading "GO >AWAY." :-)
I stand by my original post; it's tacky AF to make jokes about someone being a widower.
From another perspective, Mr Kief would have every right in the known universe to exert control over the estate of his spouse including any posthumous musical productions. I would expect him, out of respect for his spouse, to shut that shit down.
I just didn't find this joke funny. Sorry.
As for "sashay away", well, I've seen Mr Kief. Dude's never sashayed in his life. Not that I have any objections to the act of sashaying. My late brother could sashay with the best of them and I loved him dearly. But, Mr Kief? Butch AF.
Best,
Annie
Annie...

TRY to get this through your thick skull. I did not, am not, and have no intention of... making any jokes about your fantasy lover becoming a widower. The joke was about him telling people to "go away," as it's a line he's used in this group before. If you can't figure that out, well... too bad for you. Others in this thread understood it with no problem.

And if you read what was actually written, I also did not accuse Garry of sashaying. But yet again, you display this obsessive, compulsive need to defend him against even the smallest perceived slight against him, real or imagined. I forgot, though... you've declared yourself an expert on the gay experience, more than anything I as a gay man would ever know.

Build yourself a bridge, girl.
b***@gmail.com
2019-01-25 22:31:03 UTC
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I read recently that a musical on the life of Michael Jackson is being planned soon and there is also a musical on Donna Summer that is currently being staged.
I would guess that musicals based on the lives of famous singers while they are alive are difficult to do (with notable exceptions, such as the musicals on Carole King and Frankie Valli), especially if the star had such a complicated life as did Michael Jackson, as the stars probably would never consent to producers staging their work in musicals.
I read that Barry has mentioned that he would not be interested in a musical based on his life, but I think it is possible, if not probable, that a musical based on Barry's life, as well as the lives of Neil Diamond, Barbra Streisand, Madonna will be staged after they are gone. What are your thoughts? Thanks, Marvin
Hi, Marvin -

There was something on the news recently saying the Jackson family wasn't too keen about it but I don't know why. Someone was knocking on my door so I didn't hear the whole thing. I'm hoping more comes out about it. There will never, ever be another Michael Jackson and no one will ever come close. That man may have had some strange ways (to each his own) but he was a musical genius! He just kept coming out with one fabulous song after another - my favorite was "Man In The Mirror" and I LOVED Brian Justin Crum's version of it on AGT.
b***@gmail.com
2019-01-26 02:02:10 UTC
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Post by marvin
I read recently that a musical on the life of Michael Jackson is being planned soon and there is also a musical on Donna Summer that is currently being staged.
I would guess that musicals based on the lives of famous singers while they are alive are difficult to do (with notable exceptions, such as the musicals on Carole King and Frankie Valli), especially if the star had such a complicated life as did Michael Jackson, as the stars probably would never consent to producers staging their work in musicals.
I read that Barry has mentioned that he would not be interested in a musical based on his life, but I think it is possible, if not probable, that a musical based on Barry's life, as well as the lives of Neil Diamond, Barbra Streisand, Madonna will be staged after they are gone. What are your thoughts? Thanks, Marvin
It finally came out tonight on Inside Edition that this Jackson documentary to be shown at Caan has the family (don't know if they are trying to block it or not) unhappy because it supposedly paints Jackson as a child molester and one kid talks about Jackson molesting him every time he stayed at Neverland. WHY bring all this up again? Just let the man rest as all that is in the past. We need to move forward, not lag behind.
b***@gmail.com
2019-01-26 02:05:48 UTC
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Post by marvin
I read recently that a musical on the life of Michael Jackson is being planned soon and there is also a musical on Donna Summer that is currently being staged.
I would guess that musicals based on the lives of famous singers while they are alive are difficult to do (with notable exceptions, such as the musicals on Carole King and Frankie Valli), especially if the star had such a complicated life as did Michael Jackson, as the stars probably would never consent to producers staging their work in musicals.
I read that Barry has mentioned that he would not be interested in a musical based on his life, but I think it is possible, if not probable, that a musical based on Barry's life, as well as the lives of Neil Diamond, Barbra Streisand, Madonna will be staged after they are gone. What are your thoughts? Thanks, Marvin
It finally came out tonight on Inside Edition that this Jackson documentary to be shown at Caan has the family (don't know if they are trying to block it or not) unhappy because it supposedly paints Jackson as a child molester and one kid talks about Jackson molesting him every time he stayed at Neverland. WHY bring all this up again? Just let the man rest as all that is in the past. We need to move forward, not lag behind. Whether this is the supposed "musical" they are talking about or something completely different, I have no idea.
Blintzy
2019-01-26 11:46:47 UTC
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Post by marvin
I read recently that a musical on the life of Michael Jackson is being planned soon and there is also a musical on Donna Summer that is currently being staged.
I would guess that musicals based on the lives of famous singers while they are alive are difficult to do (with notable exceptions, such as the musicals on Carole King and Frankie Valli), especially if the star had such a complicated life as did Michael Jackson, as the stars probably would never consent to producers staging their work in musicals.
I read that Barry has mentioned that he would not be interested in a musical based on his life, but I think it is possible, if not probable, that a musical based on Barry's life, as well as the lives of Neil Diamond, Barbra Streisand, Madonna will be staged after they are gone. What are your thoughts? Thanks, Marvin
It finally came out tonight on Inside Edition that this Jackson documentary to be shown at Caan has the family (don't know if they are trying to block it or not) unhappy because it supposedly paints Jackson as a child molester and one kid talks about Jackson molesting him every time he stayed at Neverland. WHY bring all this up again? Just let the man rest as all that is in the past. We need to move forward, not lag behind. Whether this is the supposed "musical" they are talking about or something completely different, I have no idea.
This documentary is not a musical. If a person has genuinely been a victim of a crime committed by Jackson against them then I imagine that taking part in the film was a way for them to "move forward" from the past if they felt no other routes were available to them.
Blintzy
2019-01-26 11:13:56 UTC
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Post by marvin
I read recently that a musical on the life of Michael Jackson is being planned soon and there is also a musical on Donna Summer that is currently being staged.
I would guess that musicals based on the lives of famous singers while they are alive are difficult to do (with notable exceptions, such as the musicals on Carole King and Frankie Valli), especially if the star had such a complicated life as did Michael Jackson, as the stars probably would never consent to producers staging their work in musicals.
I read that Barry has mentioned that he would not be interested in a musical based on his life, but I think it is possible, if not probable, that a musical based on Barry's life, as well as the lives of Neil Diamond, Barbra Streisand, Madonna will be staged after they are gone. What are your thoughts? Thanks, Marvin
I can understand why some living famous performers would not want their life stories told in order to maintain some of the mystery and intrigue about themselves, particularly those who are still popular and active. So far as Barry is concerned, I don't think his life (as we know it) is interesting enough to make a good story for a musical.
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